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VideoStudio • Re: How to work with "nonstandard" GoPro Resolutions in X7?

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 04:09
Hi Oliver

Unfortunately Corel do not monitor this forum, but I will try to contact them to read this post.
You may be best in contacting them via Corel Support as you will have free support for a short while.
Other than that they have a Facebook account, by all accounts they do reply to your questions there.

So yes we are all having similar problems using your video 1920 x 1440.

In fact there are not many templates using 1920 x 1440, I am sure there are more options with earlier versions.

Some templates allow us to “User Define “ the frame size, again this option is limited.

Try setting the project properties to use AVI Xvid, I would have suggested Div X but that option is no longer available.

Microsoft AVI files
24 bits, 1920 x 1440, 50 fps
Frame-based
Xvid MPEG-4 Codec
Interleave audio for every 15 frames
PCM, 48.000 kHz, 16 Bit, Stereo

Not sure what quality that creates, but maybe a workround?

Statistics: Posted by lata — Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:09 am

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VideoStudio • Re: How to work with "nonstandard" GoPro Resolutions in X7?

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 02:56
Hi Ken!

Ken Berry wrote:
I did notice one strange thing, however. It's best illustrated in this screen grab.
VS X7 1440.jpg
Although the Properties of the file to be created are shown correctly, in the very first line it refers to a frame rate of 30 fps as opposed to the actual frame rate, also shown below that, of 47.952 fps. I'm afraid I can't explain that either.


I think, "settings" refers to the line above your marked line: The Profile is 1920x1080P 25P. But I see no way to change that profile to 1920x1440 48P...

Ken Berry wrote:
The only other thing I can think of would be to convert the original video .mp4 to mp4 with the .mov extension using GoPro's own Studio editing program. Unfortunately, I don't have that program loaded on this computer, so cannot test this out immediately. But if you happen to have it, you might want to try that.


Sorry, that's not an option. I produce lots of footage as the camera is not stopped normally and really don't want to convert everything first...

Ken Berry wrote:
Incidentally, you can certainly upload photos here. When you are writing a post, look below the text box and you should see two tabs: Options and Upload Attachment. You choose the file you want to upload by browsing to it, then upload it by clicking the Add the File button, either in line or at the bottom of your post.


Yes, I tried that. But the system said, it couldn't get the resolution from my files and wouldn't accept the image. No big deal

Thanks again,
- Oliver

Statistics: Posted by Smeagle — Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:56 am

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VideoStudio • Re: How to work with "nonstandard" GoPro Resolutions in X7?

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 02:47
Hi,

Thanks for all your input - so it seems, it's not just me and VS X7 has a problem with all resolutions and framerates which are not predefined?

I think, it is a bug.

How can we get this to development? Or do "they" monitor the forum?

Thanks,
- Oliver

Statistics: Posted by Smeagle — Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:47 am

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VideoStudio • Re: VSX7 free content

Sun, 04/06/2014 - 23:17
Have you registered the program, some items do not appear until after registration

Robert

Statistics: Posted by RobertOZ — Mon Apr 07, 2014 5:17 am

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VideoStudio • Re: VSX7 free content

Sun, 04/06/2014 - 22:37
I haven't got any of those tabs on mine! Any suggestions?

Statistics: Posted by dumbdumber — Mon Apr 07, 2014 4:37 am

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VideoStudio • Re: avchd playback

Sun, 04/06/2014 - 18:55
To summarise Trevor’s help here is my take on it
1I don’t intend to down scale from HD, so a blue ray player is needed to view the video whether it is on a card, hybrid DVD or Blue ray player
2I will , for the time being, save to a usb stick.
3As VS uses 18000kbps as a max for AVCHD I assume this is the rate to use for what I want .Where and when do I set this rate
4If and when I progress to burning to DVD (hybrid), it will give about 30 mins running time at 18000 fps and blue ray disc about 2 hours.
By the way, I have had no emailed notification of the last 2 posts

Statistics: Posted by Ken Veal — Mon Apr 07, 2014 12:55 am

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VideoStudio • Re: How to work with "nonstandard" GoPro Resolutions in X7?

Sun, 04/06/2014 - 15:56
I can use any, well I suppose any of the profiles supplied by VS, as I have tried 5 and all work ok.
I'm suspecting, it's baulking at the non standard output it is being asked to make, which makes a mockery of the same as first clip option!
I'm giving up and going to bed

Statistics: Posted by skier-hughes — Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:56 pm

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VideoStudio • Re: How to work with "nonstandard" GoPro Resolutions in X7?

Sun, 04/06/2014 - 15:26
I've tried with just the one video, so taken out every single edit etc and get the same result.
Started a new project, just added the one file, same result, apart from the estimated size went up from 3.8mb to 2.06GB
Turned off enable smart render, same result.
Made my own output template, same result.
Dropped a different file on the time line and tried to save it using my custom pre-set, same result.
Dropped one of the supplied wmv files on the timeline and tried to save it to my custom pre-set, same result

Statistics: Posted by skier-hughes — Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:26 pm

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VideoStudio • Re: How to work with "nonstandard" GoPro Resolutions in X7?

Sun, 04/06/2014 - 15:16
Strangely enough I am working on a presentation for a company, that was recorded in 1024x768 8fps, 7kbps video and 19kbps audio, (made using webex screen capture then converted using an app I am not sure about to the mp4 I have) and I get exactly the same message when trying to save.
I have the normal message come up when inserting the video to the timeline, I click yes.
I do my editing, which makes it twice the length of the original movie.
I come to save it, choose same as project settings or same as first video clip and it tells me it should be about 7.19mb in size, which is about double the size of the original movie, but when I click on start I get the error message
The frame size (1024x768) of the video does not match the settings and therefore cannot be trimmed [18706:1:1] and the estimated output size is then displayed as 143mb!!

Ken, I have exactly the same, looking deeper, (NTSC non drop frame 30fps) at the top of my settings list, but the rest are right, even to the correct 8fps of the video.

I'm going to have a play to see what I can find.................

Statistics: Posted by skier-hughes — Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:16 pm

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VideoStudio • Re: How to work with "nonstandard" GoPro Resolutions in X7?

Sun, 04/06/2014 - 15:12
Yes, I see what you mean. I downloaded your test file and when I go to ouput with either Same As Project Properties or Same As First Clip, I get the error message that the frame format (1920 x 1440) does not match the settings and cannot be trimmed. I have no idea what settings it means, however. The Project Properties match those of the clip perfectly.

I did notice one strange thing, however. It's best illustrated in this screen grab.
VS X7 1440.jpg
Although the Properties of the file to be created are shown correctly, in the very first line it refers to a frame rate of 30 fps as opposed to the actual frame rate, also shown below that, of 47.952 fps. I'm afraid I can't explain that either.

The only other thing I can think of would be to convert the original video .mp4 to mp4 with the .mov extension using GoPro's own Studio editing program. Unfortunately, I don't have that program loaded on this computer, so cannot test this out immediately. But if you happen to have it, you might want to try that.

Incidentally, you can certainly upload photos here. When you are writing a post, look below the text box and you should see two tabs: Options and Upload Attachment. You choose the file you want to upload by browsing to it, then upload it by clicking the Add the File button, either in line or at the bottom of your post.
VS Attachments.jpg

Statistics: Posted by Ken Berry — Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:12 pm

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VideoStudio • Re: How to work with "nonstandard" GoPro Resolutions in X7?

Sun, 04/06/2014 - 14:44
P.P.S.:

The translation of the error message:

Picture Size (1920 x 1440) of the video file is not the same as the settings and cannot be cut.
[18706:1.1]

I get this exact message in both cases discussed above.

My guess is, because the Profile still shows "1920x1080, 30p"... But I cannot change that.

Thanks,
- Oliver

Statistics: Posted by Smeagle — Sun Apr 06, 2014 8:44 pm

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VideoStudio • Re: How to work with "nonstandard" GoPro Resolutions in X7?

Sun, 04/06/2014 - 14:39
Hi Iata,

no, it is and should be 4:3. Square Pixels.

Thanks for the offer to look at it! I just recorded a short, silly video for you and uploaded it to my webspace:

http://vaross.de/GoPro1440P48.MP4

Hi Ken,

I'm answering your post in the other thread here, because I thinks it's better to discuss it in this thread!

I'm not interested in BluRay (don't even have a TV or a BD Player). My 30" Monitor has 2560x1440 Pixel, and that matches 1440 Pixel of the 1440P. I would like to record in 60Hz, but 48Hz is the max the GoPro will do. 30Hz is too slow, I need slow motion. Sadly 1440P/48 is the only good option for 4:3 video on the GoPro 3 black. And I want 4:3, because I want the maximum height possible and the sensor of the GoPro is 4:3. So when recording in 16:9 you will always loose height.

Yes, the resolution/framerate is not "standard", but it should be possible to configure VS for it, don't you think?

Thanks for your suggestions... But I tried both. And it won't work.

This is "Share > Create Video File > Same As First Clip" in German:

http://www.vaross.de/VS1.PNG

It can't "resize" the video to another format than 16:9. And I can't set the project to 4:3 manually. Get the error message "can't resize video...".

So I tried your other suggestion:

I was able to set the project to the corect aspect ratio and resolution! Yeah!

http://vaross.de/VS2.PNG

BUUUUT I still can't write it. I get the exact same error when trying to write the file.

I think, this is a bug.

And I STILL think, one should be able to enter non standard resolutions and frame rates manually.

Thanks for your input, though! Very helpful!

Regards,
- Oliver

P.S.: The forum did not allow me to post those photos in the text, so I added them as urls...

Statistics: Posted by Smeagle — Sun Apr 06, 2014 8:39 pm

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VideoStudio • Re: VideoStudio Wishlist for Version X8

Sun, 04/06/2014 - 14:23
Hi Ken,

Thanks for your input. I will answer it in the other thread, I don't think this belongs in this thread.

Just the short version: It won't work like you suggested. I think, this may be a bug.

Thanks,
- Oliver

Statistics: Posted by Smeagle — Sun Apr 06, 2014 8:23 pm

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VideoStudio • Re: How to work with "nonstandard" GoPro Resolutions in X7?

Sun, 04/06/2014 - 14:19
Hi

Although your video frame is 1920 x 1440 it should be widescreen, to achieve this Non Square Pixel Rendering will be applied to the video clip.
It is difficult from the samples to say if it is 4:3 or 16:9 but I would expect 16:9.

If you set Video Studio to use 16:9 widescreen your video should look like the second section of the second sample, widescreen 16 :9
How did you manage to create that second section?

Can you provide a sample so we can download and try on our computers.
One drive, aka skydrive from Microsoft live will allow you to upload a sample, simply provide us with a link.
https://onedrive.live.com/

But as we have mentioned setting Show Messages from F6 should match the video file and set the project properties correctly.
Please start a new project before adding your clips.

Statistics: Posted by lata — Sun Apr 06, 2014 8:19 pm

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VideoStudio • Re: How to work with "nonstandard" GoPro Resolutions in X7?

Sun, 04/06/2014 - 14:03
Have you ticked the box in Preferences > General beside "Show message when inserting first video clip"? That should produce a message asking if you want to match the Project Properties to those of the first clip? Or is that when you get the error message? If so, what exactly does that error message say?

As I said in your Wish List post, I don't use your 1920 x 1440 size video from my Hero 3. However, I just happen to have some Hero 3 footage in 1280 x 960 which, like yours, is 4:3. And when I insert the first clip, I got the message asking if I wanted the Project Properties to match. I said yes, and the Project Properties were adjust to precisely those of the video. And I have produced new video from this original using both Share > Create Video File > Same As First Clip, as well as Same As Project Properties.

Statistics: Posted by Ken Berry — Sun Apr 06, 2014 8:03 pm

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VideoStudio • Re: How to work with "nonstandard" GoPro Resolutions in X7?

Sun, 04/06/2014 - 13:57
canuck wrote:
The source format aspect ratio is 4:3 (1920x1440 resolution) so it will have black bars in the 16:9 aspect ratio


Yes, exactly that.
Sorry to be not clear enough

I want 4:3 video. Resolution: 1920x1440. I cannot find a output format where I can enable 4:3 (apart for DVD) or change the resolution to some manual value. Every setting that produces "HD" or higher resolution seems to be fixed to 16:9.

This is what the camera produces:

http://youtu.be/DRCnHs3tREg

This is the best I could do with VideoStudio X7:

http://youtu.be/xvd_CmDseXw


I would REALLY expect the software to be able to set the project setting to the exact specs of the first original video. But I just get an error message.

It's a GoPro 3 black. Not some unknown camera...

- Oliver

Statistics: Posted by Smeagle — Sun Apr 06, 2014 7:57 pm

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VideoStudio • Re: How to work with "nonstandard" GoPro Resolutions in X7?

Sun, 04/06/2014 - 13:52
In other words, you should try changing the aspect ratio from the default 16:9 to 4:3.

See also my comments in your post in the Wish List thread at the top of this forum: viewtopic.php?p=286495#p286495

Statistics: Posted by Ken Berry — Sun Apr 06, 2014 7:52 pm

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VideoStudio • Re: VideoStudio Wishlist for Version X8

Sun, 04/06/2014 - 13:48
I have never used any of the less normal frame formats on my own Hero 3 Black -- and 1920 x 1440 at 48p is not strictly "normal", particularly if you are intending to make a Blu-Ray disc. That would entail as change to the frame size to the normal 1920 x 1080 or 1280 x 720. And it would probably also need to change the 48p to 50p (PAL) or 60p (NTSC) or even 24p.

However, that being said, X7 allows you two things which may help in your situation. First, in Preferences > General, tick the box beside "Show message when inserting first video clip". Then when you insert the first clip into the timeline, you should get a message asking if you want to match the Project Properties to those of the clip. If you say yes, then the Project Properties should include both 1920 x 1440 and 48p. This in turn will allow you, when you finish editing your project, to select Share > Create Video File > Same As Project Properties.

Second, even if you don't go the way of the previous paragraph, another innovation in X7 is to allow you to use Share > Create Video File > Same As First Clip. In previous versions, this worked mainly only with standard definition video and only one or two flavours of high definition. But it should now work with your video.

Statistics: Posted by Ken Berry — Sun Apr 06, 2014 7:48 pm

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VideoStudio • Re: RotoPen Observations

Sun, 04/06/2014 - 13:46
RobertOZ wrote:
I have always used Route Generator, free, very easy to use and very accurate.
But as I said above it generates enormous AVI files, so screen capture with a screen capture program

http://www.routegenerator.net/

Robert


The files are only large if you select the "uncompressed" codec option. Other options produce smaller files.

Statistics: Posted by canuck — Sun Apr 06, 2014 7:46 pm

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VideoStudio • Re: VSX7 free content

Sun, 04/06/2014 - 10:31
Have you clicked on the "ALL" tab - see below

X7 do more screen.PNG

Statistics: Posted by BrianCee — Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:31 pm

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